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VTHokie2000
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Maybe not in the long-term, but what about the short-term? Short-term

being until 2030/2031 when everyone is expecting some sort of movement within the ACC. If VT is trying to leverage a seat at the P2/P1 table, then it probably doesn't have the luxury of waiting 15 years for the pieces to finally fall into place. Unfortunately, VT needs to step up its flipping property game and be able to sell VT's long-term potential within a short window. In order for that happen, VT can't allow the fan base to abandon ship the moment the sea starts to get a little choppy. If VT sells the reality that it will never be able to catch Indiana even if everyone gives 150% towards this plan, then we'll see fans heading towards the lifeboats while the boat is still docked in port. So VT has no choice but to sell the perception that it can be in the same ballpark as Indiana as long as the fans don't lose faith in the plan. Yes, that approach may be trying to sell Shangri La in the long run. However, it is better than the alternative especially if VT is able to secure a seat at the P2/P1 table and improve its financial situation. No risk no reward.
Posted: 01/20/2026 at 04:20 PM ET
(In response to this post by AirborneHokie96)

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With IU winning the CFP, showing how it can be done, we should have hope!
The Bear 01/20/26 11:13 AM ET
The reason for Indiana's success
Tidewater Hillbilly 01/20/26 07:01 PM ET
Good for Indiana, but its not applicable to us or anyone else
TekkNerd 01/20/26 12:39 PM ET
You nailed it **
HokiesACC2004 01/21/26 05:31 AM ET
Cignetti's year may result in more James Franklin types being fired**
VTCALS72 01/20/26 05:09 PM ET
The money part of the equation is applicable
Hate2SeeItEnd Hokie 01/20/26 02:49 PM ET
That surprises me
crazylane 01/20/26 04:10 PM ET
My theory is you can buy program improvement with money, not championships.
TekkNerd 01/20/26 02:58 PM ET
Fallacious argument. You can't win championships without investment.
marcbvtgm 01/20/26 03:56 PM ET
Cignetti (or his staff) seem to be good evaluators of talent for his system
The Bear 01/20/26 02:41 PM ET
He isn't recruiting "older" players, but "productive" players.
EDGEMAN 01/20/26 01:05 PM ET
Well...older players are usually more productive.
TekkNerd 01/20/26 01:11 PM ET
We had a lot of "older" players who were invited to hit the portal...
EDGEMAN 01/20/26 01:14 PM ET
How many of the older players were "productive" at their prior schools when
VTHokie2000 01/20/26 01:21 PM ET
Chesney is probably the HC with the most pressure on him going into next
VTHokie2000 01/20/26 01:05 PM ET
Everyone has forgot the other component MONEY
1947Sunbowl 01/20/26 01:03 PM ET
Their NIL was $10M in 2024...heard it was closer to $14M this year (2025)
AirborneHokie96 01/20/26 01:10 PM ET
I can think of one person in the athletic department that needs to go NOW!
EDGEMAN 01/20/26 01:10 PM ET
working.
1947Sunbowl 01/20/26 01:49 PM ET
Agree on it being Cignetti,the guy wins everywhere.I saw an extremely well
HokieBrazil 01/20/26 12:53 PM ET
I got hope. Never lost that, even with our struggles.
Hate2SeeItEnd Hokie 01/20/26 12:31 PM ET
Actually, it wasn't a quick build at IU
AirborneHokie96 01/20/26 12:14 PM ET
It would not surprise me if some Simon properties executives
tallahasseehokie 01/20/26 12:43 PM ET
Undergrad or grad...probably more with the latter.**
EDGEMAN 01/20/26 01:11 PM ET
Kelley School has a very good reputation both undergrad and MBA
AirborneHokie96 01/20/26 01:13 PM ET
You can probably say that about most B10 undergrad and grad schools.
EDGEMAN 01/20/26 01:18 PM ET
I agree
AirborneHokie96 01/20/26 01:32 PM ET
They are... I know quite a few of the large donor families
AirborneHokie96 01/20/26 01:02 PM ET
I want to figure out who will be VT's "Mark Cuban"
Rationalist 01/20/26 12:02 PM ET
THere is but they are quiet.
1947Sunbowl 01/20/26 01:06 PM ET
i like quiet!
Rationalist 01/20/26 10:39 PM ET
People always think it's the money. It's not.
Gobbler Guru 01/20/26 12:39 PM ET
I agree with part 2 of your statement
Rationalist 01/20/26 10:43 PM ET
Cuban isn't one of the largest athletics boosters
AirborneHokie96 01/20/26 12:17 PM ET
I read that he didn't start contributing to athletics until a couple
reestuart 01/20/26 01:58 PM ET
A friend of a friend heads up their NIL collective
AirborneHokie96 01/20/26 02:02 PM ET
FWIW Indiana started to quietly invest in its football program back in 2021
VTHokie2000 01/20/26 11:41 AM ET
I didn't say we would win the CFP this next year. But it's nice to see
The Bear 01/20/26 03:05 PM ET
The reason for my post is because the "turnaround" may not have been as
VTHokie2000 01/20/26 03:37 PM ET
It was earlier than that to be honest (see above) $138-143M in major
AirborneHokie96 01/20/26 12:16 PM ET
The reason I said 2021/22 is because I found an article, which I posted on
VTHokie2000 01/20/26 12:52 PM ET
If you look at football specific spend, IU has been above VT the last 15 yr**
AirborneHokie96 01/20/26 01:33 PM ET
I assume that is due in part to the comparison of the network deals and
VTHokie2000 01/20/26 01:54 PM ET
Huge disparity in Conference money...B10 schools expected to get $70M
AirborneHokie96 01/20/26 02:01 PM ET
I don't disagree there is a huge disparity in conference money. Hence why
VTHokie2000 01/20/26 02:10 PM ET
But they really don't...
AirborneHokie96 01/20/26 04:06 PM ET
Maybe not in the long-term, but what about the short-term? Short-term
VTHokie2000 01/20/26 04:20 PM ET
It's still very risky and assumes that a conference like the B10
AirborneHokie96 01/20/26 04:34 PM ET
Except the Big Ten may not be VT's only option. After listening to the
VTHokie2000 01/20/26 05:00 PM ET