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VTHokie2000
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The Week 0 games count toward the 12 regular season games though. That is

my point. The start of the season will change because it includes Fall practice. The bylaw below would now apply to "bowl games" since they are now played at the beginning of the regular season instead of the postseason. "17.12.3.1 First Practice Date. [FBS/FCS] An institution shall not commence official preseason football practice sessions, for the varsity, junior varsity or freshman team, before 31 days before its first scheduled intercollegiate game. Before its first scheduled intercollegiate game, an institution may not engage in more than 25 on-field practices. (Revised: 1/11/89, 4/14/03, 4/24/03 effective 5/1/03, 4/28/05, 1/18/18, 6/11/18, 5/18/22)" The bylaw below would also be impacted by the change because the start of Fall practice would begin sometime mid to late July (as I previously stated) due to the moving of the bowl games and the impact it has on Bylaw 17.12.3.1. "17.12.2 Length of Playing Season. [FBS/FCS] The length of an institution's playing season in football shall be limited to the period of time between the start of preseason practice (see Bylaw 17.12.3) and the end of the regular playing season (see Bylaw 17.12.5), except as provided in Bylaw 17.12.7 (see Bylaw 17.12.4 for restrictions on first contest dates)." Since this currently no concept of preseason games in college football, which is what you seem to be claiming the bowl game would be, the following bylaw would apply (unless changed) and why I am suggesting that teams would need to have 1 slot available on their regular season schedule for it. Although it is worth noting the bylaw does include scrimmages as counting against the 12 regular season slots which could suggest the same would apply to the bowl game. "17.12.6 Number of Contests. [FBS/FCS] 17.12.6.1 Maximum Limitations -- Institutional. [FBS/FCS] In bowl subdivision football, an institution shall limit its total regular-season playing schedule with outside competition during the permissible football playing season in any one year to 12 contests (games or scrimmages), except as provided for member institutions located in Alaska and Hawaii, under Bylaw 17.32.2, and except as provided for all members under Bylaw 17.12.6.2. In championship subdivision football, a member institution shall limit its total regular-season playing schedule with outside competition during the permissible football playing season in any one year to 11 contests (games or scrimmages), except as provided for member institutions located in Alaska and Hawaii, under Bylaw 17.32.2, and except as provided for all members under Bylaw 17.12.6.2. Twelve football contests shall be permissible during those years in which there are 14 Saturdays from the first permissible playing date through the last playing date in November (e.g., 2024, 2025). (Revised: 1/12/99 effective 8/1/02, 8/5/99 effective 8/1/02, 4/28/05 effective 8/1/06, 12/15/06)"
Posted: 12/08/2025 at 02:57 PM ET
(In response to this post by Pylons)

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Bowls are dying. Time to move the playoffs up and end it on January 1!
hokiedad25 12/08/25 11:35 AM ET
Expect a football version of NIT in the future
jjbeat 12/08/25 01:54 PM ET
Get rid of conference championship games too.**
Maroon Baboon 12/08/25 01:23 PM ET
Agree. I used to really enjoy them but their time is over. **
radhokie1 12/08/25 01:39 PM ET
Powers that be are like Steinbecks Lenny killing game by squeezing too hard**
One4VT 12/08/25 01:07 PM ET
Expand the playoff to 64 teams, then use the bowls for the games.**
EDGEMAN 12/08/25 01:02 PM ET
I remember when Beamer said bowls are a "reward" for a good season - now
VPI_1998 12/08/25 12:29 PM ET
Bowls handed out a lot of SWAG, and that was before players could be paid..
EDGEMAN 12/08/25 01:03 PM ET
Since I love bowl season, if they're going to go away, expand that playoff
Bleedin OandM 12/08/25 12:22 PM ET
Like to see season start with bowl games pitting teams and helping to
Ranger Sam 12/08/25 12:10 PM ET
Agreed. Have a bowl week to start the season with bids handed out
Pylons 12/08/25 12:18 PM ET
Would you consider the VT vs. SC neutral site game to be a "bowl game?"**
VTHokie2000 12/08/25 12:12 PM ET
It's obviously not literally, but it would be the same sort of
Pylons 12/08/25 12:19 PM ET
People are suggesting that the bowl games should be moved to the beginning
VTHokie2000 12/08/25 12:57 PM ET
Who cares if the teams are completely different?
Pylons 12/08/25 01:26 PM ET
Potential ticket purchasers could be upset because they felt their team got
VTHokie2000 12/08/25 01:49 PM ET
Fans are always upset. VT fans are particularly expert in feeling screwed.
Pylons 12/08/25 02:07 PM ET
The Week 0 games count toward the 12 regular season games though. That is
VTHokie2000 12/08/25 02:57 PM ET
I'm not sure why you keep arguing this as if the existing rules
Pylons 12/08/25 03:14 PM ET
The schools may not be interested in changing some of the bylaws for
VTHokie2000 12/08/25 03:46 PM ET
Bowls are revenue streams for conferences (and schools)
1947Sunbowl 12/08/25 11:59 AM ET
It's simple, replace the Bowl system with a G5 playoff.
wwhokie1 12/08/25 12:51 PM ET
This is what I would like to happen**
HokieAl 12/08/25 12:58 PM ET
I would be far more interested in watching a G5 playoff game,
wwhokie1 12/08/25 01:08 PM ET
Move bowls to the beginning of the next season
Pylons 12/08/25 12:20 PM ET
But then they're not really bowl games,
wwhokie1 12/08/25 01:00 PM ET
They're bowl games if you call them bowl games.
Pylons 12/08/25 01:10 PM ET
Well if they're a bowl game because you call them a bowl game,
wwhokie1 12/08/25 01:27 PM ET
And local economy, and ad sponsorship and revenue.**
TomTurkey 12/08/25 12:09 PM ET
Bowls are great for ESPN viewership.
HokieAl 12/08/25 11:59 AM ET
Will the new model still be able to provide content during the work week
VTHokie2000 12/08/25 12:11 PM ET
Rebrand as preseason scrimmages and use ACC refs
V333T 12/08/25 11:41 AM ET
Careful folks will want to fire Franklin if he loses a scrimmage. **
GreenvilleVT 12/08/25 11:58 AM ET