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IronBlood

Yes, things do change - which is amazing and wonderful.

So he could be bad one year and good the next...in actual games. And since that's already happened with him, it stands to reason it could happen again...in actual games. Change.
Posted: 04/05/2023 at 05:01 PM ET
(In response to this post by OrangeHokieFan)

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Andy Bitter posted who was with the first team the other day in practice
OrangeHokieFan • 04/05/23 02:36 PM ET
Unless Wells is going to be a LOT better this year than
Hokeedokee • 04/06/23 08:30 AM ET
He was arguably the best player on the offense last year**
marcbvtgm • 04/06/23 07:24 PM ET
the sad part is how close that is to being true. I personally don't put
GusDaMan • 04/07/23 09:24 AM ET
Who could you possibly put at #1-3 above him?**
marcbvtgm • 04/10/23 03:34 PM ET
Smith and Gallo for sure by a mile, King (when healthy), Wright, Thomas
GusDaMan • 04/10/23 03:49 PM ET
Your definition of "best" and mine don't match. And your definition of
Hokeedokee • 04/06/23 09:14 PM ET
Then what is your definition? Who were better offensive players last year?
marcbvtgm • 04/10/23 03:31 PM ET
100% agree that he was the most important player. But he wasn't the best.**
GusDaMan • 04/10/23 03:51 PM ET
...we may not have a good Qb1 folks. Anyone think of that, (yet)?
bourbonstreet • 04/06/23 07:04 PM ET
Not exactly sure what you mean but I all but said we don't have a D1 QB we
Hokeedokee • 04/06/23 09:16 PM ET
agry. Eye said the same on Drones --somewhere to Orange I think?**
bourbonstreet • 04/06/23 09:18 PM ET
could be a very correct take but
VTCALS72 • 04/06/23 02:17 PM ET
If this is truly a rebuild that is going to take some time (3-4 years)
IronBlood • 04/06/23 12:43 PM ET
Average D1 would be an enormous upgrade from 2022. We were bottom 5%
Fatman • 04/06/23 11:49 AM ET
I would think our ranking in wins will exceed our offensive rankings
VTCALS72 • 04/07/23 12:09 PM ET
So shouldn't we have an O that helps WIN MORE GAMES versus the preventing
NokieHokie • 04/07/23 01:14 PM ET
Is Wells actually going to be the starter? Would that not be surprising? **
flhokie25 • 04/05/23 09:54 PM ET
Wells has been an interception machine both at Marshall and last year
djoog • 08/23/23 08:04 PM ET
Cannot afford to start well for another year
djoog • 08/23/23 08:08 PM ET
it would be surprising if he were NOT the starter IMO. The guy behind him
BG Hokie • 04/06/23 11:26 AM ET
Gosnell ain't no cat-synonym...
bourbonstreet • 04/05/23 08:26 PM ET
Would it benefit Drones and Tech in long run to put him in now?
MaryWashGrad • 04/05/23 04:14 PM ET
No**
vtox1 • 04/06/23 07:30 AM ET
To me this is what it comes down to. What is Pry's offense?
IronBlood • 04/05/23 04:50 PM ET
Rpo and drone is not exclusive
Mercury • 04/06/23 07:47 AM ET
Wells = VT poor man's Trace McSorley. We just need Saquan Barkley = at RB
91HokieBob • 04/06/23 08:14 AM ET
Micah Parsons***
OrangeHokieFan • 04/06/23 11:25 AM ET
Corrected, thanks! gaffe :)**
91HokieBob • 04/06/23 01:27 PM ET
No**
vtox1 • 04/06/23 07:30 AM ET
Whatever offense we run, everyone needs to be on the same page
EDGEMAN • 04/05/23 05:17 PM ET
Yes**
vtox1 • 04/06/23 07:31 AM ET
Here’s what I suspect
OrangeHokieFan • 04/05/23 04:33 PM ET
No reading too much into little data**
vtox1 • 04/06/23 07:32 AM ET
yah; fair-play. 2's and 3's have been pretty Picky.
bourbonstreet • 04/05/23 08:47 PM ET
Play best guy **
vtox1 • 04/06/23 07:34 AM ET
Why so down on Gosnell and Holloway?
VTCALS72 • 04/05/23 07:13 PM ET
Lane tore up Miami
OrangeHokieFan • 04/05/23 08:41 PM ET
What if Wells is the present and future
Seikoh_04 • 04/05/23 04:31 PM ET
It's fairly simple...
Chris ColemanAdmin • 04/05/23 04:48 PM ET
Gary T.
HokieBrian • 04/07/23 12:01 PM ET
Wasn't that "tech fan" DeShazo's girlfriend at the time? Or ex?
TomTurkey • 04/06/23 02:54 PM ET
A vindictive ex would make more sense. Most fans wouldn’t have a clue as
Hoakie82 • 04/07/23 12:14 PM ET
Exactly. Another great example is Hooker.
GSOHokie01 • 04/05/23 11:41 PM ET
That’s different entirely, according to HH himself…
ombandit • 04/06/23 06:34 AM ET
medication?**
HokiePokie95 • 04/06/23 09:40 AM ET
Single game notwithstanding, he wasn't close to Heisman caliber at VT.**
Techsupport • 04/06/23 08:51 AM ET
Even without those issues he wouldn’t have found the success at VT.
GSOHokie01 • 04/06/23 08:13 AM ET
I would opine that the biggest change to his advantage
VTCALS72 • 04/06/23 08:44 AM ET
That Tennessee offensive scheme is getting a ton of credit in draft circles
BG Hokie • 04/06/23 11:35 AM ET
No doubt he was a fit for what they were trying to do
VTCALS72 • 04/06/23 12:07 PM ET
Actually, Hooker lost the battle to Joe Milton.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 04/06/23 12:58 PM ET
I didn't remember his name but Milton is who I called "the other guy."**
VTCALS72 • 04/06/23 01:57 PM ET
The talent around him was definitely improved but at the end of the day…
GSOHokie01 • 04/06/23 10:17 AM ET
We have no idea how HH would have done here if the had
VTCALS72 • 04/07/23 12:16 PM ET
He was a strong QB for us.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 04/06/23 11:32 AM ET
Fair enough. I've tried to block out those years of VT football...LOL.**
GSOHokie01 • 04/06/23 10:15 PM ET
You keep clouding the discussion with facts.**
Atlee Hokie • 04/06/23 01:22 PM ET
That is one possibility. Is it also possible he wasn't able to
Tombo • 04/05/23 10:56 PM ET
Yeah but that goes both ways
Planner_Hokie • 04/05/23 10:09 PM ET
Doesn't need to be Tom Brady, just need him to be Grant Wells at Marshall
BG Hokie • 04/06/23 11:29 AM ET
our 1st Qb1 in how many years running NOT beat all to hell too. Go fig'?**
bourbonstreet • 04/05/23 08:29 PM ET
Our O-line did him no favors
EDGEMAN • 04/05/23 05:55 PM ET
I agree
Seikoh_04 • 04/05/23 05:04 PM ET
If he is better, not all ACC level but markedly better
VTCALS72 • 04/05/23 07:20 PM ET
^this is a good/fair ask^ hmmmmmm... well, what can this 1's oLine do???
bourbonstreet • 04/05/23 08:35 PM ET
Great example of why every year, team, player is different especially in FB
91HokieBob • 04/06/23 08:32 AM ET
So B-Street to put you on the spot
Planner_Hokie • 04/05/23 09:59 PM ET
Me? Right this very 2day minute? Aye. O.d.u.=???
bourbonstreet • 04/05/23 10:03 PM ET
Maybe we see both....shoulder shrug**
91HokieBob • 04/06/23 08:33 AM ET
One way or another? I'd almost say: "you will". **
bourbonstreet • 04/06/23 07:18 PM ET
Yup, prolly almost guarantee it. **
91HokieBob • 04/06/23 07:28 PM ET
Maybe all of the offensive coaches will be on the same page this year. I
Hokie`79 • 04/05/23 07:31 PM ET
Why are they mutually exclusive.... and actually are codependent
turkeywinghokie • 04/05/23 07:29 PM ET
My whole point was that mutual thing,
VTCALS72 • 04/05/23 07:35 PM ET
I think it’s far more the latter
Hokie1992 • 04/06/23 03:36 AM ET
It’s rare for a QB to all of a sudden become amazing in year 5
OrangeHokieFan • 04/05/23 04:35 PM ET
Bryan Randall...**
91HokieBob • 04/06/23 08:00 AM ET
Completely agree**
flhokie25 • 04/05/23 09:56 PM ET
interesting... Eye can put your name beside: Wells=Qb2?**
bourbonstreet • 04/05/23 08:37 PM ET
You said he was inconsistent in practice about a week ago.
IronBlood • 04/05/23 04:46 PM ET
He definitely doesn't know...**
BG Hokie • 04/06/23 11:31 AM ET
"We don't know what we don't, know." --Coach Donny Rumsfeld**
bourbonstreet • 04/05/23 08:39 PM ET
Oh he knew...**
NokieHokie • 04/06/23 12:59 AM ET
Lol. He's just another "agenda boy" poster.**
seacain • 04/05/23 07:15 PM ET
And coach Pry said he had a good practice the other day
OrangeHokieFan • 04/05/23 04:58 PM ET
Three practices per week.**
Chris ColemanAdmin • 04/05/23 05:11 PM ET
Yes, things do change - which is amazing and wonderful. ◄
IronBlood • 04/05/23 05:01 PM ET
Agree. Which is the point of practice and development. This gets thrown
91HokieBob • 04/06/23 08:06 AM ET
Even in his best year I believe he had 13 ints
OrangeHokieFan • 04/05/23 05:55 PM ET
God help us all if he is the best option...will be a 6 win max team
flhokie25 • 04/05/23 09:57 PM ET
would take 6 right now in a NY-second------>
bourbonstreet • 04/05/23 10:05 PM ET
200% of the total but only 100% improvement **
Seikoh_04 • 04/06/23 05:03 PM ET
Sadly 6 wins is a massive improvement
OrangeHokieFan • 04/05/23 10:51 PM ET
And that's not a given, since we have a harder schedule this season
EDGEMAN • 04/06/23 06:39 AM ET
yah; tru, fair play. Start could very well=finish, again.
bourbonstreet • 04/06/23 07:14 PM ET
Step one: fix all of the sloppy mistakes
EDGEMAN • 04/07/23 07:42 AM ET
yah; it prolly splits those two '22 1-point games. Maybe nicks another too.**
bourbonstreet • 04/07/23 04:18 PM ET
It’s baffling we took 0 OL in the portal
OrangeHokieFan • 04/06/23 11:27 AM ET
...who wanted our, work? Eye've not heard of any turndowns. You?**
bourbonstreet • 04/06/23 07:14 PM ET
Why would any O player want to come here? Sincere question. I guess you can
NokieHokie • 04/06/23 07:18 PM ET
Yups. 3rd oLine coach in 3 years=go somewhere else. big O&M red flag.
bourbonstreet • 04/06/23 07:20 PM ET
Plus the public selling of "coaches whom want to be here" gets thrown out
NokieHokie • 04/06/23 07:22 PM ET
haha... yah. Eskimos are an; icy... sell?
bourbonstreet • 04/06/23 07:25 PM ET
Starting to look like 2 cycles in a row...**
Tombo • 04/06/23 06:51 PM ET
In Pry you don't trust? :)**
NokieHokie • 04/06/23 01:02 PM ET
No surprises other than the WR musical chairs, Tisdale will slot in
soflahokie • 04/05/23 03:14 PM ET
In our new D system, there will not be a true mike
3DKeyShaker • 04/06/23 01:09 PM ET
Wells
grg • 04/06/23 09:12 AM ET