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I think sports, broadly, are valuable. Football's value is the real problem

It's not just because football's the most expensive sport to run. It's also that it's the sport that VT alumni care the most about, and it's also the sport developing a competitive cutoff such that below it, spending 10 million below the cutoff is as pointless as spending 80 million below it. Not just VT, a lot of universities are going to be making the same decision (or maybe it gets made for them), whether they're willing to spend higher and higher as that threshold for competitiveness keeps rising over time (because there are no guardrails in place, e.g. salary/spending caps as found in professional sports, there's nothing preventing the increasing consolidation of wealth to the largest programs, and, by extension, consolidation of on-field success). Personally, I think given enough time at a high level of success, I think basketball could substitute well enough for all those broader community benefits, student affinity for the school, etc. Like, imagine if VT started spending enough on basketball, men's and women's, such that they were in the Sweet 16 most years, multiple Final 4 appearances, maybe even a title somewhere in there. A brand new student, 17-18 years old, maybe doesn't have a strong sports favorite yet, but does like to be part of the most exciting event on campus, they would quickly find their fervor with a team that wins 90% of the time. But, where would the money for this kind of success come from? Probably at the expense of football, but that goes back to the issue of how football is what the alumni care the most about. Will they choose to sacrifice their own favorite sport in the hopes of developing a powerhouse program in other sports, for the benefit of kids who are still years removed from becoming students? I don't know, I kind of doubt it.
Posted: 08/20/2025 at 08:18 PM ET
(In response to this post by 2hhoop3)

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VTpartimer 08/19/25 10:06 PM ET
partner, I think you're right. This has been talked about on here before.
saret 08/21/25 12:14 PM ET
He doesn't have a lot of options
hucareshokiesrul 08/20/25 03:57 PM ET
At VT, approximately 39% of undergrad students use federal student loans
AirborneHokie96 08/20/25 05:08 PM ET
Yes...students paying other students.... wonderful way to be "big time"**
AirborneHokie96 08/20/25 12:27 PM ET
Why do people think is aghast. VT is the last holdout
1947Sunbowl 08/19/25 11:04 PM ET
"Everyone else is doing it"
Gobbler Guru 08/20/25 01:40 PM ET
There's plenty of amenities at VT that I never used
Synaesthesia 08/20/25 06:17 PM ET
Were they entertainment options?
AirborneHokie96 08/20/25 06:50 PM ET
Thoughtful read..........
2hhoop3 08/20/25 06:36 PM ET
I think sports, broadly, are valuable. Football's value is the real problem
Synaesthesia 08/20/25 08:18 PM ET
If VT alumni cared a lot about football, we wouldn't have such poor donor
AirborneHokie96 08/21/25 01:31 PM ET
Nah, that's letting the Hokie Club and Athletic Directors off the hook for
NokieHokie 08/21/25 01:34 PM ET
You're basically.......
2hhoop3 08/20/25 08:32 PM ET
I would be ok with a Duke**
AirborneHokie96 08/21/25 01:31 PM ET
Sports shouldn't be scrapped but burning money shouldn't be the only option
AirborneHokie96 08/20/25 06:52 PM ET
AH96, you're right. There are a multitude of things that should be
saret 08/20/25 07:05 PM ET
Where is the MTSU article??
AirborneHokie96 08/20/25 07:10 PM ET
Here is as link to one that is not behind a pay wall.**
saret 08/21/25 12:26 PM ET
Smart on their part
AirborneHokie96 08/21/25 01:25 PM ET
MTSU is doing, imo, the best it can, in a variety of ways
saret 08/21/25 01:51 PM ET
I do not disagree......
2hhoop3 08/20/25 07:05 PM ET
Something tells me no matter what happens there will be complainers here.
marcbvtgm 08/20/25 04:22 PM ET
It's a true tax on students...many are paying for school with student loans
AirborneHokie96 08/20/25 02:21 PM ET
It's just putting bubble gum into the holes in the dam....
AirborneHokie96 08/20/25 12:29 PM ET
I agree that at this point we are a "have not." It didn't need to be that
Pride_and_Joy 08/20/25 01:40 PM ET
We are 10 years late in everything
AirborneHokie96 08/20/25 02:18 PM ET
The problem is that only 25% of the rev sharing
Pride_and_Joy 08/20/25 05:24 PM ET
But increased football spending at VT will not change things...
AirborneHokie96 08/20/25 05:34 PM ET
Ahh yes, the paradoxical conundrum that plays out here
saret 08/21/25 12:40 PM ET
the "industry"? I say fade out. It is absolutely obnoxious to tie higher ed
ModerateHokie 08/20/25 10:29 AM ET
Agree
AirborneHokie96 08/20/25 12:31 PM ET
And that ain’t bad.
VPI 1924 08/20/25 01:22 PM ET
If you drop football, how do you pay for all the non-rev sports?**
Pride_and_Joy 08/20/25 05:32 PM ET
Last holdout in the commonwealth
CMU Hokie 08/20/25 07:25 AM ET
There are a number of compounding factors at play here...
BuffaloTraceHokie 08/20/25 08:45 AM ET
If the fans want it, they need to pay for it**
AirborneHokie96 08/20/25 05:09 PM ET