Penn State's problem is that for the next coach to be "better" he has to
get to the national championship game. That's the bar and it's a high one. And that's regardless of how good the next coach is. One of the effects of the 12 team playoff is that the odds of any one team winning it all go down. That's just simple math and probability. So your goal is already harder than it used to be in the past. Then you factor in the conference competition in the Big Ten. Yes they are more likely to get multiple bids than the ACC but you're still going against teams that have a talent and/or money advantage way more often. And that doesn't seem like it's changing any time soon. Ohio State is obviously a machine. Michigan will always be committed to a winning program. Indiana has elevated itself. Oregon has Nike money. Should Penn State expect to beat those type of teams at the top of the conference regularly? Because if the bar is the title game then you're going to have to do that.
I'm not even a big Franklin supporter but I said when Penn State fired him (and before he was ever even a possibility here) that I thought they had made a mistake. Regardless of how Franklin's time plays out here I still believe that simply because of the requirements for the next guy to be "better". The most likely outcome is that they end up with someone who has similar or worse results.
Thread Replies (31)
I have been listening to Penn State talking heads. They are worried.
-- VT ChemE 1986
Nov 18, 2025 at 02:42 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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11/18/25 02:42 PM ET
What happened to WE ARE PENN STATE?**
-- VaTechHokiesACC
Nov 19, 2025 at 01:02 AM ET
VaTechHokiesACC
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11/19/25 01:02 AM ET
Why should they be worried about JF having an axe to grind?
-- marcbvtgm
Nov 18, 2025 at 07:06 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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11/18/25 07:06 PM ET
This aged well already.**
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Nov 18, 2025 at 09:30 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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11/18/25 09:30 PM ET
Interesting point when comparing CJF to Buzz
-- Marooned
Nov 18, 2025 at 05:37 PM ET
Marooned
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11/18/25 05:37 PM ET
How bout this for them - “tough sh*t!”
-- MontgomeryTexasHokie
Nov 18, 2025 at 04:42 PM ET
MontgomeryTexasHokie
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11/18/25 04:42 PM ET
Their top candidates to replace Franklin are...
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Nov 18, 2025 at 04:32 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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11/18/25 04:32 PM ET
I would take either of them over Franklin**
-- marcbvtgm
Nov 18, 2025 at 07:08 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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11/18/25 07:08 PM ET
I would suggest caution when it comes to recruiting assumptions...
-- Techsupport
Nov 18, 2025 at 04:51 PM ET
Techsupport
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11/18/25 04:51 PM ET
Franklin has spent 12 yrs building relationships w/ PA high-school coaches**
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Nov 18, 2025 at 04:58 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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11/18/25 04:58 PM ET
Those relationships will quickly become a distant #2, at best, in a few wks**
-- marcbvtgm
Nov 18, 2025 at 07:12 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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11/18/25 07:12 PM ET
You're setting you expectations way too high...
-- Techsupport
Nov 18, 2025 at 05:15 PM ET
Techsupport
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11/18/25 05:15 PM ET
Well it appears we just snagged their top 4-star QB recruit from Cali.
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Nov 18, 2025 at 09:33 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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11/18/25 09:33 PM ET
Penn State's problem is that for the next coach to be "better" he has to
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-- AbsolutVT03
Nov 18, 2025 at 04:42 PM ET
AbsolutVT03
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11/18/25 04:42 PM ET
1st level of "better" for PSU is to finish above 3rd in the B1G.
-- marcbvtgm
Nov 18, 2025 at 07:21 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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11/18/25 07:21 PM ET
Huh? I hope you didn't take stats at VT...
-- jesuisvtguy
Nov 18, 2025 at 06:46 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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11/18/25 06:46 PM ET
Prior to now four teams (and before that two) had the chance to win a title
-- AbsolutVT03
Nov 18, 2025 at 09:47 PM ET
AbsolutVT03
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11/18/25 09:47 PM ET
They should. Franklin has a chip on his shoulder now..
-- AirForceHokie77
Nov 18, 2025 at 04:30 PM ET
AirForceHokie77
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11/18/25 04:30 PM ET
Really starting to seem like PSU made a knee jerk decision**
-- Techsupport
Nov 18, 2025 at 03:51 PM ET
Techsupport
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11/18/25 03:51 PM ET
you know when Franklin came to PSU it was an amazing journey
-- 1947Sunbowl
Nov 18, 2025 at 03:36 PM ET
1947Sunbowl
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11/18/25 03:36 PM ET
Goes to show don't always listen to the rich people
-- hokiedad25
Nov 18, 2025 at 03:28 PM ET
hokiedad25
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11/18/25 03:28 PM ET
The rich people weren't the ones yelling "Fire Franklin"...**
-- marcbvtgm
Nov 18, 2025 at 07:23 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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11/18/25 07:23 PM ET
AS though they'd taken hints from us before our BOV & AD wised up.**
-- PhotoHokieNC
Nov 18, 2025 at 04:47 PM ET
PhotoHokieNC
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11/18/25 04:47 PM ET
All are facts. Question is, they need a GREAT hire to counter it, somehow.
-- VTizzle
Nov 18, 2025 at 03:03 PM ET
VTizzle
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11/18/25 03:03 PM ET
All they're doing is contacting P4 coaches and getting them raises...
-- TekkNerd
Nov 18, 2025 at 03:57 PM ET
TekkNerd
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11/18/25 03:57 PM ET
UGA targeted K.Smart before canning Richt. Not PSU had "their guy" teed up.**
-- Techsupport
Nov 18, 2025 at 03:50 PM ET
Techsupport
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11/18/25 03:50 PM ET