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Bruno, I'm sure there are plenty of posters on your B12 conf board who will

agree with your logic and I've seen a lot of your posts in the past that demonstrate you are as thoughtful a poster as can be expected from a WVU fan... sorry.... couldn't help myself there. The truth is, unless they PLAY THE GAME, nobody can say that Alabama is a better team than FSU. That FSU defense is as dominant as any in the game. There is no guarantee that a Michigan team that could not run on Iowa would fare any better against FSU and that Line of theirs and the UM QB is not going to put the team on his back to win a playoff game. Conversely, the FSU third string QB was not as much the problem for them against UL as the FSU receiver corps who, to a man, dropped several catchable balls. It may be that his delivery differed a lot from the 2nd string QB and they had a hard time adjusting or that they all just had one of those days... like ALA said they had against AUB. Unfortunately, we will never know if FSU and that defense that will probably place 6-7 into the early rounds of the NFL draft could have been a truly incredible cinderella story. Remember, if the opposing team's offense cannot score points on you, your offense does not need to be that good; but, only good enough. As a parting shot let me add, you should admit that the only reason Texas is in the playoff is because they beat an ALA team that was not that good at the start of the year but was good enough to get by GA at the end. If GA had won that game like they were FAVORED TO, the committee would have gone with the 4 undefeated conference champions and the big 12 would have assumed their traditional position of last in the Power 5 lineup. ** Edited by gahokie at 12/6/2023, 11:14:29 AM
Posted: 12/06/2023 at 11:08 AM ET
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So some of you think FSU is still the same team that ran their schedule?
Bruno 12/06/23 04:01 AM ET
They're missing one guy, and he's not even their best player
Zanderhokie 12/06/23 03:50 PM ET
They are a 14 point dog to Georgia for a reason. **
Bruno 12/06/23 07:31 PM ET
Remind me again, how many was Washington favored by over Oregon???
gahokie 12/07/23 11:17 AM ET
I think they are better now than they were before
OrlandoHokie 12/06/23 11:16 AM ET
Bruno, I'm sure there are plenty of posters on your B12 conf board who will
gahokie 12/06/23 11:08 AM ET
Have you ever prepared a 3rd string quarterback for a title game on several
Maroon Baboon 12/06/23 11:00 AM ET
Games are not won on paper ...
nowukno 12/06/23 10:46 AM ET
^^^^^The drive by passive aggressive WVU poster**
GCHokieof91 12/06/23 10:32 AM ET
Pull my finger. **
Bruno 12/06/23 07:47 PM ET
You know what they say about opinions, don’t you?**
GCHokieof91 12/06/23 10:30 AM ET
They all stink?
crazylane 12/06/23 10:49 AM ET
That isn't the point at all.
IV_Hokie12 12/06/23 10:18 AM ET
They scored over 20 with the second string guy. No they wouldn't have been
HokiePail 12/06/23 09:27 AM ET
I'll bite. Yes, FSU is not the same team. But guess what?
goodbadugly 12/06/23 09:27 AM ET
They're clearly not, however, being a pure "resume" guy isn't some
BG Hokie 12/06/23 09:21 AM ET
Literally no one thinks that. We get that FSU probably isn't as good
HokieGuru 12/06/23 09:00 AM ET
Shoot, just plug teams into AI, and skip playoff altogether Bruno.
Techsupport 12/06/23 08:48 AM ET
Wait...you think this is about playing to determine the best football team?
HokiePokie95 12/06/23 09:07 AM ET
And none of that matters… P5, conf champion, undefeated
WestyHokie 12/06/23 08:38 AM ET
So, if for whatever reason
GvilleHokie 12/06/23 08:32 AM ET
Didn't they whoop UF in the Swamp with their backup? That's the QB who
ModerateHokie 12/06/23 08:07 AM ET
No, they didn't whoop FL, they barely beat them and...
Vienna_Hokie 12/06/23 10:07 AM ET
UF was also playing with a back up QB. Graham Mertz was injured too. **
VTBAMA 12/06/23 08:29 AM ET
Bama needed a miracle to beat an avg Auburn**
ModerateHokie 12/06/23 08:33 AM ET
The week after Auburn was trounced at home by... New Mexico State
Zanderhokie 12/06/23 03:53 PM ET
I agree with that but that is a very intense rivalry and if you go back and
VTBAMA 12/06/23 08:39 AM ET
Meh. Auburn had just been destroyed by NMSU. Bama was 7-3 the past
reestuart 12/06/23 09:01 AM ET
and the week before AU demolished MSU, who the week before beat FL in swamp
Vienna_Hokie 12/06/23 10:10 AM ET
so is beating UF in the Swamp a quality win or not? You want it both ways**
ModerateHokie 12/06/23 10:17 AM ET
never said that, I said cherry picking certain games shows nothing**
Vienna_Hokie 12/06/23 10:19 AM ET
I hear what you're saying... it is hard to predict what will happen in the
goodbadugly 12/06/23 10:13 AM ET
I agree that FSU should have gone, but not that FSU is better than AL
Vienna_Hokie 12/06/23 10:17 AM ET
Bama defense looks soft**
ModerateHokie 12/06/23 12:06 PM ET
Agree to disagree. Having been to a Iron Bowl there the atmosphere is
VTBAMA 12/06/23 09:10 AM ET
But the committee looked the other way when F$U beat SEC teams.
EDGEMAN 12/06/23 08:23 AM ET
you lose your ranking by losing a game, not a player...**
HOKIE75-79 12/06/23 07:55 AM ET
They played Loserville better than Meechigan played Iowa, so...
EDGEMAN 12/06/23 07:14 AM ET
With that logic the Jax Jaguars should be excluded from NFL playoffs becaus
sacramento hokie 12/06/23 06:55 AM ET
The 4 best teams are in playoffs and on a side note, I would have ranked
Jeffroww 12/06/23 06:43 AM ET
FYI, Uga is -13.5. What would the line have been if Uga had won and played
VTBAMA 12/06/23 08:32 AM ET
More parody this year than in a long time
crazylane 12/06/23 07:07 AM ET
Yup**
OldRetiredHokie 12/06/23 06:45 AM ET
Their second team qb played fine and beat Florida- their 3rd team beat UL
tallahasseehokie 12/06/23 06:35 AM ET
You think Florida and Louisville
Bruno 12/06/23 07:58 AM ET
People seem to be forgettng that UF was playing with a backup also. It make
VTBAMA 12/06/23 08:35 AM ET
Florida is also the 2nd worst team in the SEC**
Vienna_Hokie 12/06/23 10:57 AM ET
You think Auburn is good? **
ModerateHokie 12/06/23 08:08 AM ET
They are when they play their rival. **
Bruno 12/06/23 08:49 AM ET
Ah yes special pleading. The logic doesn't apply when its Bama. **
IV_Hokie12 12/06/23 10:19 AM ET
mmm... FSU and UF are pretty big rivals as well
Rationalist 12/06/23 10:14 AM ET
Both barely beat their rival on the road, point to neither, next**
Vienna_Hokie 12/06/23 11:13 AM ET
BS, why didn’t the committee drop them to #8 immediately after the injury…
ombandit 12/06/23 06:34 AM ET
To watch them play without him?
OldRetiredHokie 12/06/23 06:44 AM ET
The Fl.St Louisville game was absolutely painful to watch.
Jeffroww 12/06/23 09:49 AM ET
UL QB was horrendous. The endzone pic was the 2nd worst pass of the weekend
VTBAMA 12/06/23 10:26 AM ET
They would’ve had Rodemaker back for bowl/playoff
hokiepro 12/06/23 06:30 AM ET
I think, even without disputing what you say, FSU earned a spot...
No_Limit_Hokie 12/06/23 06:12 AM ET
AMEN ..Preach It..
JRHokie 12/06/23 05:40 AM ET