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VTHokie2000
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That is a fair assessment. I have always viewed concerts and other similar

entertain as an easy way for an arena to earn extra money in the gaps of the primary tenant's events. It is fine if VT opts not to pursue it even though it could be extra money left on the table. However, I was thinking more in terms of "new requirements" in the NCAA 2.0 which could force VT to renovate Cassell 2.0 so soon after construction. It could some as simple as attendance like you currently see in football or the P2/P4s agree to sponsor certain sports because the P4s, the Big East, and maybe 1 or 2 other non-football conferences formed a new DI within the NCAA 2.0. If the P4s want to limit how much money is shared with the rest of DI schools and the DII/DIII schools that compete at DI level in certain non-revenue sports, then requiring the existing P4 schools to sponsor a core group of sports could be a solution to the number of participating schools problem. If men's and women's ice hockey makes the core sports list (because it is important to the Big Ten) and VT wants to continue as a P4 school, then it has 3 options; renovate Cassell 2.0 so hockey can play there, build a hockey arena, or find an existing arena that would satisfy the requirement. The usage of an arena in Roanoke or Salem may only be a temporary solution until VT figures out whether it wants to build a new one or renovate Cassell 2.0. One reason I picked ice hockey is because it is one of the few sports that is heavily depended upon non-P4 schools to satisfy the participation requirement. Water polo is the other sport that immediately comes to mind. Even if the P4s aren't necessarily looking to form their own division level within the NCAA, it may have gotten to a point where things aren't really that much different than how they were in 1971 when the schools formed the 3 division levels. Because of Title IX, what does that mean for the non-revenue sports? Do the P4s allow the non-P4s to compete at the new DI level in those sports, but not in the 2 revenue sports? Or are the P4s forced to make a clean break altogether? The clean break could force schools to sponsor sports they normally wouldn't consider because they want to remain a P4 school. If VT already decided its plans for Cassell 2.0 before this change occurred and it gave itself no wiggle room, then VT could have screwed itself to some degree.
Posted: 03/05/2026 at 10:57 AM ET
(In response to this post by Chris Coleman)

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not a very big crowd for last night's game**
lazarus1 03/04/26 12:33 PM ET
Late start on a Tues night vs one of not so good teams in the league.**
sideline guy 03/05/26 11:28 AM ET
hokies need to play all their home games at the 20k seats Capital One Arena
Windows NT 03/05/26 12:23 AM ET
Well at least it wasn't in a new 15k+, $125mm+ underutilized building
Vippie1 03/04/26 04:19 PM ET
I brought up the Cassell renovation/replacement subject a few days ago and
ftsumterhokie 03/05/26 12:44 PM ET
I don't think anybody is advocating for that.
Chris ColemanAdmin 03/05/26 09:59 AM ET
Given the issues VT is facing with Cassell now, it seems to me that VT
VTHokie2000 03/05/26 10:27 AM ET
I personally don't think so.
Chris ColemanAdmin 03/05/26 10:31 AM ET
That is a fair assessment. I have always viewed concerts and other similar
VTHokie2000 03/05/26 10:57 AM ET
They could pursue concerts, sure.
Chris ColemanAdmin 03/05/26 11:54 AM ET
I believe the Globetrotters annually play a game at JMU, so it would be
VTHokie2000 03/05/26 11:58 AM ET
Pinnacle Bank Arena (PBA) can serve as a model
huskerHokie 03/05/26 11:16 AM ET
I agree VT doesn't have a daily need to have arena capacity of 15,500.
VTHokie2000 03/05/26 11:51 AM ET
I think that kind of extra space kills atmosphere, though.**
Chris ColemanAdmin 03/05/26 12:02 PM ET
It can, but it may not be as noticeable if done right. For example, if the
VTHokie2000 03/05/26 12:24 PM ET
We don't need 15K+ capacity, but we do need a modern arena.
Gobbler Guru 03/04/26 04:58 PM ET
There's a middle ground though (that I know you don't agree with) ...
I love VT! 03/04/26 10:59 PM ET
I get doing the reno but I am firmly against a new arena
Walkin` Willie 03/04/26 05:49 PM ET
Yeah, a modern 8K or so arena would be plenty. There are so many things
reestuart 03/04/26 05:26 PM ET
VT may not need a 15K capacity arena from an attendance standpoint.
VTHokie2000 03/04/26 05:15 PM ET
My HS played a regional BB game in Cassell in the late 60s. **
TomTurkey 03/04/26 09:06 PM ET
So did we**
Shbolf 03/04/26 09:21 PM ET
Got beaten by 2 by Langston HS; a team I've never heard of, before or since**
TomTurkey 03/05/26 12:13 PM ET
2 of 3 options UNC is looking at is a new ~17k arena. Est cost $703M-$786M
marcbvtgm 03/04/26 07:12 PM ET
With an estimated $20M yearly revenue. Not a very good ROI in my mind. No
40ozDistrict 03/05/26 06:23 PM ET
Maybe so, but I wasn't assuming Cassell 2.0 necessarily had to have that
VTHokie2000 03/04/26 09:12 PM ET
There is no reality where VT will significantly outgrow a 7-10k arena
marcbvtgm 03/05/26 10:33 AM ET
The outgrow may not be actual attendance but satisfying new requirements
VTHokie2000 03/05/26 11:01 AM ET
You're moving goalposts now. Regardless, no chance this'll be a requirement
marcbvtgm 03/05/26 02:34 PM ET
A reason attendance could become a requirement is the same reason the
VTHokie2000 03/05/26 09:58 PM ET
You're moving goalposts again.
marcbvtgm 03/06/26 11:29 AM ET
To your point about Roanoke...
Gobbler Guru 03/04/26 06:46 PM ET
Given that Blacksburg and Christiansburg are in close proximity to each
VTHokie2000 03/04/26 10:01 PM ET
Oh I get that. We have got to spend money .
Vippie1 03/04/26 05:06 PM ET
It was a GOOD crowd for 9:00 weeknight game! Student really showed!**
HokieHeartNSoul 03/04/26 04:15 PM ET
Excellent student crowd. **
I love VT! 03/04/26 01:57 PM ET
The students were fired up.**
Will StewartAdmin 03/04/26 08:53 PM ET
Especially when Scott (?) Nailed his half court shot at halftime**
GusDaMan 03/04/26 09:26 PM ET
Yes, they were.**
RJHokie 03/04/26 08:54 PM ET
9 pm Tuesday will really get after ya**
VT Pez4Life 03/04/26 12:52 PM ET
Against BC no less**
hoosnowahokie 03/04/26 01:16 PM ET