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As far as the buyout for Mike (and I am not endorsing this at all just

stating some fact/details), there are some things that need to be pointed out. March 15th will complete the third year of Mike's NEW (after the extension in the summer of 2021) 6 year deal. After March 15, that changes over to year 4. The buyout in year 4 drops to $6M. IF, Whit were to ever make a change, he would simply wait until March 16 (which would not impact things that much to wait until then). That would NOT be a cost prohibitive move, as that could be spread out over 3 years. We might not be happy that we had to this, but somewhat manageable. This is NOT a Justin Fuente situation where the entirety of the buyout would come in the year of the firing, however. Those days of that type of contractual mistake are over. We had a similar discussion of Brent Pry's buyouts the last year and a half and those have died down :-). Now, Mike is nowhere near that type of discussion in Jamerson. Not close and that conversation should not be occurring after this season. Mike is well aware of the issues with this team, and has been aware of them the entire year. He is keenly aware of the roster issues as well, and nothing can be done during the season despite what so many (not you and I am just picking your post to kind of jump in) on this board clamor for (literally after every loss). Mike will need to assess the program and where it sits after the season concludes. Next year will be an important year, as it is with any head coach, because it gets time to either extend the contract again or not (and if you don't it creates well known issues as to your standing with the administration). But for some that run to this board literally during, and after, every loss with the same issues, need to keep in mind nothing will change during the season. Not telling anyone they can't have their own opinion, but gosh, fussing about it each game (and the entire next day) wears people out. As far as NIL goes. We (VT NIL monies) have actually raised a little more than we/most would have probably thought. Football is trending well (and needs to for obvious reasons), and that is evident with our roster. Basketball is decent (not bad nor great). The staff has discussed this with several folks in our NIL world. Basketball will improve some (and that is in the works). We will probably continue to look to work with 6-8 guys with the majority of our hoops NIL dollars. Just don't need to be heavily involved with 13 scholarship players--not practical anyways as playing time will dictate coming and going for some. There are some that are starting to want to do more sport specific NIL giving. So that can help sports other than football. Mike is more likely to retire than to be fired at this junction (this year). We want to do well in basketball, and can be good (and have been). What good means is in the eye of the beholder I suppose. People at VT want the hoops program to do well. While we can point out that we have only had 13 NCAA tournament bids in our history, 5 of those have come in the last 7 years. Next year will be big for our program. Let's see how the roster shakes out before we "predict" what next year will look like. No one, at this point, knows. It is easy to assume the worst (some seem to relish in that type of thinking), but it might be best to wait and see.
Posted: 02/28/2024 at 08:07 PM ET
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Here's the bottom line: This program has 3 paths to take after this season
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 12:11 PM ET
This whole discussion is really good and the conclusion is
Squatro 03/01/24 06:51 PM ET
I don't agree with the notion that VT can't be better next year than we are
hokiehill1117 02/29/24 02:36 PM ET
You wrote: “It has to be a rough job convincing kids to live in Blacksburg.
VPI63 02/28/24 11:14 PM ET
Agree, Blacksburg is a lame ass excuse…sick of it as a recruiting issue**
ombandit 02/29/24 08:19 AM ET
Brent and Beamer absolutely had the same problem...
GCHokie34 02/28/24 11:33 PM ET
Beamer brought our football team from a footnote
VPI63 02/29/24 12:48 AM ET
Lots to digest here...
GCHokie34 02/29/24 02:51 PM ET
Excellent post**
Durham Hokie 02/29/24 10:11 AM ET
Spend th money getting and keeping a hot shot recruiter, buyout 💵 is flush
Stech 02/28/24 09:36 PM ET
As far as the buyout for Mike (and I am not endorsing this at all just
VTScoop 02/28/24 08:07 PM ET
You say MY is well aware of teams issues..
Big D 02/29/24 06:38 AM ET
No, he came on the Podcast before RR left.
Chris ColemanAdmin 02/29/24 10:43 AM ET
went back and listened...
Big D 02/29/24 02:44 PM ET
What do you expect him to say? "We stink, don't buy tickets." Every coach
HeisenBurg13 02/29/24 07:31 AM ET
💯% This
J2KHokie 02/29/24 06:29 AM ET
POTM!!!! Makes be ashamed of my reactionary posts, knowing as little as I
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 08:23 PM ET
You sound very informed. A question if I may
VT ChemE 1986 02/28/24 08:17 PM ET
There is no national database. And that won't ever be the case in its
VTScoop 02/28/24 10:20 PM ET
Very good question. **
40ozDistrict 02/28/24 09:56 PM ET
Duplicate Post. NM.
VTScoop 02/28/24 08:07 PM ET
what makes all options difficult is his age
VermontDDS 02/28/24 07:03 PM ET
and lose those high school wrestling uniforms**
stevie50 02/28/24 05:00 PM ET
It has to be option 2 with a dose of a staff...
Jackie VT 02/28/24 04:01 PM ET
I don’t think it’s necessarily about the quality pf the players
NC Hoke 02/28/24 03:40 PM ET
Athleticism, athleticism, athleticism. So it is about the Jimmy's & Joe's**
BuffaloTraceHokie 02/28/24 05:59 PM ET
Okay, which of our players do you consider unathletic,
NC Hoke 02/28/24 11:15 PM ET
Most of the team, actually.
BuffaloTraceHokie 02/29/24 04:05 PM ET
You didn’t answer my question.
NC Hoke 02/29/24 04:29 PM ET
I'm not being smart. And you've now moved the goal post...
BuffaloTraceHokie 02/29/24 08:47 PM ET
Nickel damn near plods. Plus, both Pedulla and Catoor, while having decent
King of Hokies 02/29/24 07:10 AM ET
Appreciate your objective response. Your comments
NC Hoke 02/29/24 08:00 PM ET
Yeah, there's a reason we dropped off defensively post-Alleyne/Bede/Radford
Chris ColemanAdmin 02/29/24 11:20 AM ET
I could see Radford being the type player CMY might have recruited.
NC Hoke 02/29/24 11:59 PM ET
Excellent synopsis. Worth the subscription price!**
Femoyer Hokie 02/29/24 11:32 AM ET
I would say quickness, hops and length
nkhooch 02/29/24 05:02 AM ET
I’d agree with length with the current roster.
NC Hoke 02/29/24 11:30 PM ET
My observations
DMV Gobbler 02/28/24 03:34 PM ET
Men's basketball is the only other revenue sport at VT that
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 04:05 PM ET
Thats for all colleges. Rarely do you see a 3rd sport be revenue producing
HokieRat 02/28/24 05:33 PM ET
I say he is told to get new staff**
MrFantastic! 02/28/24 03:18 PM ET
Or perhaps shake his up a bit!!**
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 04:05 PM ET
Recruiting clarification
VT ChemE 1986 02/28/24 02:09 PM ET
MY is below the national average in transfers out...**
GCHokie34 02/28/24 05:58 PM ET
Is our target performance somehow relative to the national average? If not,
King of Hokies 02/28/24 11:09 PM ET
VT is well above average in men's basketball...
GCHokie34 02/28/24 11:15 PM ET
Right. So why do you want to compare an aspect of our coach's performance
King of Hokies 02/28/24 11:54 PM ET
You're of the opinion that 2.4 transfers per year is high?
GCHokie34 02/29/24 12:07 AM ET
Thank you for providing relevant data this time**
King of Hokies 02/29/24 06:47 AM ET
Don't think that number speaks to timing
VT ChemE 1986 02/28/24 08:20 PM ET
It happens...
GCHokie34 02/29/24 12:16 AM ET
Is that for his entire tenure.....
2hhoop3 02/28/24 07:27 PM ET
Either way...
GCHokie34 02/28/24 11:10 PM ET
Verbal commits has 12 in the last 5 years. Kabongo had to quit basketball
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 08:15 PM ET
I am just asking to.......
2hhoop3 02/28/24 08:24 PM ET
GC's reply is non-responsive to the OP. Because the OP has nothing to do
King of Hokies 02/28/24 11:14 PM ET
That's why I gave the ON3 site. Closest to showing what college programs
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 08:33 PM ET
Thanks for your effort......
2hhoop3 02/28/24 08:44 PM ET
Exactly. VT football has had a high number of transfers. And most of them
King of Hokies 02/29/24 07:20 AM ET
Yes, bunch of bums
GCHokie34 02/29/24 10:07 AM ET
Not to mention Kidd, Poteat...
VictoryTurkey 02/29/24 11:47 AM ET
My pleasure.**
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 10:01 PM ET
Those stats, sir, are above my pay grade!! ( But so important).**
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 09:57 PM ET
Now there you go yet again, ruining several fact-less narratives!!
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 07:21 PM ET
While I agree, the inability to get the LOI on HS recruits that
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 02:21 PM ET
“It has to be a rough job convincing kids to live in Blacksburg.”
Hardcore_Hokie 02/28/24 02:01 PM ET
'21 & '22 VT teams both lived in Blacksburg, And those teams are fine as a
6thStreetHokie 02/28/24 05:12 PM ET
how come Coach Pry dont have that problem**
DMV Gobbler 02/28/24 03:35 PM ET
Well, woman athletes seem to like Blacksburg **
HokienGeorjaw 02/28/24 03:06 PM ET
Apples and oranges**
vtbball80 02/29/24 10:46 AM ET
Women athletes like where their sport is appreciated...
GCHokie34 02/28/24 11:13 PM ET
The women basketball players who are making us a Top 10 team did not come
King of Hokies 02/29/24 07:24 AM ET
Virginia Tech has provided more resources to women's basketball...
GCHokie34 02/29/24 09:28 AM ET
That's pretty much how Stanford, UVA, etc. got most of their national
atlhokie1 02/29/24 10:00 AM ET
I’m pretty sure I’d pick Miami **
GreenvilleVT 02/28/24 02:47 PM ET
To each his own but I chose Blacksburg over Baltimore and DC…
Hardcore_Hokie 02/28/24 03:02 PM ET
Dancin' in the streets in those big places, don't forget the Motor City**
RhinoVT 02/28/24 03:25 PM ET
Not going to all those clubs at 18 sounds great I’d go Tallahassee over MIA**
Hardcore_Hokie 02/28/24 02:51 PM ET
Tallahassee ain't much either. **
40ozDistrict 02/28/24 05:08 PM ET
Most basketball recruits prefer urban settings and it's tough to bring this
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 02:05 PM ET
Why is it only basketball recruits?**
NC Hoke 02/28/24 03:28 PM ET
Basketball tends to be a more urban game than football. Think about big
AbsolutVT03 02/28/24 04:52 PM ET
I understand that is a common sentiment, I just disagree.
Hardcore_Hokie 02/28/24 02:28 PM ET
Oak Hill will not be what they once were...Nike sponsored them and a very
HOKIE75-79 02/28/24 08:43 PM ET
Oak Hill is an outlier. Kids go there for free ( top ones do) and know it's
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 04:14 PM ET
Begin recruiting internationally!
134341Hokie 02/28/24 02:41 PM ET
Didn't Buzz Williams prove that good players are willing to play here?
CPVT3 02/28/24 01:17 PM ET
Yes, and so did Seth and so does CMY.
NC Hoke 02/28/24 03:12 PM ET
It's not "malarkey". It's an obstacle no doubt. The question really is how
AbsolutVT03 02/28/24 04:50 PM ET
This is the nuanced truth.**
Vippie1 02/28/24 05:56 PM ET
And don’t forget Seth.
Hardcore_Hokie 02/28/24 02:35 PM ET
He did, and I would love for the "BUT HE CHEATED" folks to speak up...
Gobbler Guru 02/28/24 01:45 PM ET
I can say this for Seth..when he was recruiting Momo Jones from Oak Hill..
HOKIE75-79 02/28/24 07:33 PM ET
There was odor around Chris Clarke recruitment too I believe
millmtnhokie 02/28/24 02:24 PM ET
He committed to UT, then decommitted and committed to VT a week later.
Chris ColemanAdmin 02/28/24 02:43 PM ET
We will not win in ACC bb without a coach who paints outside the lines
tallahasseehokie 02/28/24 04:19 PM ET
You are mistaking winning for cheating. You can have it if that’s how you
Stech 02/28/24 09:43 PM ET
If Nolleys improved greatly in college it’s certainly in his flipping skill
GreenvilleVT 02/28/24 03:55 PM ET
Surely for purely their love of VT. :)**
NokieHokie 02/28/24 03:26 PM ET
Want to know what a sleaze Brent was? Ask someone who knows. GC34. He knows
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 02:03 PM ET
He sweat a lot. I know that for sure.
GreenvilleVT 02/28/24 03:56 PM ET
Agreed, would love specifics beyond the Nolley situation...
stescham 02/28/24 01:58 PM ET
It comes from his relationship with Martin Fox....(link)
Jackie VT 02/28/24 03:46 PM ET
That's just a part of his shenanigans behind the scenes.**
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 04:12 PM ET
It's good that there are no specifics.
Chris ColemanAdmin 02/28/24 02:05 PM ET
Well,but with NIL now do you really need to cheat?So as long as we have
HokieBrazil 02/28/24 02:46 PM ET
The things Buzz was caught doing weren't money related.
Chris ColemanAdmin 02/28/24 02:48 PM ET
We need a lot more cheating in our basketball program.
Pride_and_Joy 02/28/24 05:49 PM ET
That seems mild for some on here to call him a "total sleeze"
WildTurkE 02/28/24 02:58 PM ET
His misdeeds at VT
MFWHokie0607 02/28/24 05:08 PM ET
I mean there are factual instances of him cheating just none that were
AbsolutVT03 02/28/24 04:39 PM ET
Exactly!
Gobbler Guru 02/28/24 04:35 PM ET
We need to pull in quality Portal Players on the level of Mutts & Basile.
YBYSAIAHokie 02/28/24 12:59 PM ET
How about Kidd and Poteat and Nickel?**
VictoryTurkey 02/29/24 11:57 AM ET
Agreed. That takes more NIL cash, as do top rated HS recruits. The bottom
ancient alien 2018 02/28/24 02:15 PM ET
Re: game plans and plays- from Adrian Autry after game...
Woody 02/28/24 12:50 PM ET
It helps when the opposition (us)
Glen Allen Hokie 02/29/24 10:53 AM ET
WOW!!! What a great message, and Syracuse showed us the WAY TO WIN!**
George Baylor 02/28/24 03:03 PM ET